In "Prophets of Deceit", Lowenthal & Guterman described the concept of "the overwhelming enemy" that the true believer rails against. The idea of the overwhelming enemy may be seen as related to the concept of learned helplessness, that the follower is powerless against on his own, and can only counter through participation in a mass movement. The concept of the line cutter may be described as a manifestation of that "overwhelming enemy" concept.

Please feel free to pose comments or questions in the chat and we can get back to them in the Q/A. You will also have the chance to ask questions in the Q/A later on.

I keep coming up with questions, but Prof Cohen keeps answering them because her reasoning is so thorough.

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Q: I wonder whether we need to be more attentive to questions of fairness. Queue jumping, whether experienced in a supermarket or a system of refugee status determination, happens. How SHOULD we respond to other behaving in bad faith? Your reference to the subject of the NPR interview suggests that his reaction was not so different form that of full-throated xenophobe. Is this fair? Evenhandedness and fairness are deeply democratic virtues; when they are violated, democratic citizens react, in predictable ways. Are they always wrong? How do we distinguish between justifiable expressions of indignation (catalyzed by the misuse of systems of selection and sequencing) and xenophobic racism?

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Question! Put me in the queue!

You are all in the queue! No line cutting.

I want to ask about how different the queu for justice in the sense of judiciary justice could be. Here people come into queu because they are accused of something or decide to sue or claim something. But here the queu does not work in the same way, people are sometimes served rapidly but many times wrongly and then they go to a different queu in which they spend years and many times die in it or are denied access all together. The judiciary is an example on how powerful, reach and entitled people exert they are entitlements to the detriment of others in a malformed queu to which some have no access almost at all. Specially minorities, disenfranchised people, immigrants and so on. 

How can the concept of triage in hospitals be made to be part of structuring queues? Is that a good idea to move away from the first-come-first-served principle?

Terrific talk, Elizabeth. I have a 5 pm meeting and so am sorry not to stay for the discussion.

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we were shopping for biscuits.

Are queues best understood as reified notions of fairness?

Replace need with conferments of standings?

Thank you. This is the most interesting talk I attended in a very long time

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Really amazing! Thank you so much!

Thank you so much for this great talk!

Thank you so much Elizabeth, this talk was so fascinating and looking forward to future work

thanks!

Thank you for an excellent talk. Looking forward to reading more!

Brilliant & inspiring talk! Gracias desde Santa Cruz, CA, USA